Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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London Bethelites Living on Their Nerves?

by The Searcher in

just got home and received information from a source regarding london bethel: .

a bethel couple told my source that they are getting rid of about 20/25 bethelites every week and that if they are to go, they will get called in on a friday and given their leaving date.everyone is "on edge" and hoping that if they get the boot, they've got time to make alternative plans.. perhaps bethelites everywhere should apply this scripture, by looking for a job and accommodation now - and then just resign from their "vow of poverty" without giving advance warning.

(proverbs 22:3) "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences.".

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

What a horrible employer the Watchtower is.

Cofty, it isn't just a Watchtower employer, it's the "bethel family".

The bethel family is the type of family where you have to do whatever "mother" asks. You don't say anything negative about the family to others. Working for the interests of this family is everything. And at any whim of mother, you can be kicked out of the family.

I used to be part of that family. But it was fake. A phony marketing scheme just like the "spiritual paradise", designed to snare and enslave. I'm sure there are still some good people--even future exJWs--that are slaving in that fake family today.

I'm so glad that I'm not any part of that dysfunctional family now!

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Warwick to finish EARLY

by wifibandit in

ok, story time.. anon asks me via pm:.

just heard from a wallkill bethelite that warwick will finish early.

can you confirm?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

The sooner it's finished, the sooner they can get those Brooklyn properties on the market!

And the sooner it's finished, the sooner they can give the pick slips to those construction workers.

And the sooner it's finished, the sooner the GB can move to their beautiful new toxic waste site.

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CO in midwest gets pink-slipped

by LevelThePlayingField in

i saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.

i was shocked but here it is.

here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I think that before these layoffs became common, a CO couple would have said that it was their choice to leave the work for health or family reasons. I don't think they would have said they were "fired" from the circuit work if this had happened 20 years go. It would have been personally embarrassing. It would have put the organization in a bad light. So they would have revised the story in order to avoid awkward conversations and questions.

But in this letter, the CO seems genuinely honest about what has happened. As others have noted, although he says things about trusting the org, the tone of the letter puts that trust into question. Since bethelites and special pioneers have been getting pink slips, it wouldn't be that embarrassing to say you've gotten one too.

I also have a gut feeling that he's circulated this letter in hopes that someone in the circuit will be able to help them get settled out in the real world.

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Special Pioneer Sister-in-Law and Husband just got their letter.

by cappytan in

jw
friends

well, my sister-in-law and her husband, special pioneers for only a couple of years, just got their letter.. her comment was along the lines of, "they're having to do this because they forgave all those kingdom hall loans a few years ago and the brothers aren't donating anymore.".

when my wife told me, i laughed so hard i farted.

;).

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Her comment was along the lines of, "They're having to do this because they forgave all those Kingdom Hall loans a few years ago and the brothers aren't donating anymore."

Who is the "They're" and "they" that she is referring to? Doesn't she mean "Jehovah is" and "he"?

Doesn't she believe that Jehovah is directing Watchtower Corporation and he made the decision to forgive the loans? Isn't this all part of His will and purpose?

Well, my sister-in-law and her husband, special pioneers for only a couple of years, just got their letter.

They've had their couple of years as special pioneers, so what do they have to show for it? Did they meet dozens of interested people while working d2d, study with them, and get them dunked? In a couple of years they should have a new congregation filled with new publishers that they brought into "da troof"!

Or maybe Jehovah didn't see that they were fruitful branches, so he lopped them off.

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Pledge for Global Assistance Arrangement - $15 per publisher!

by nmthinker in

last night our congregation read a letter for the global assistance arrangement combined with the traveling overseer assistance arrangement.

the "recommended" amount was $15 per publisher, which was well over $1000 for our hall.. it seemed steep.

our congregation does not have this type of money.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

An elder, a CO, and a GB member were talking about how they decide to allocate their funds.

When asked, the elder explained that he and his wife take their whole income in $5 bills. They draw a circle on the floor. They throw all the money up in the air and whatever falls inside the circle is donated to the congregation and WWW.

The CO says that he and his wife do very similar with their reimbursements and green handshakes in $5 bills. They draw a circle on the floor. They throw all the money up in the air. But it's what falls outside the circle that gets donated to the society.

The GB member explained that the Governing Body does something very, very similar to these brothers. But they take the society's income in $100 bills. They also draw a circle on the floor. Then they throw all the money up in the air. And whatever Jehovah catches, he can keep!

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It's official - JWs have least common sense of any religious group in US

by slimboyfat in

some fascinating results in the latest pew research.

(how did i miss this before?

) including that jws rely on their religion the most of any group to tell right from wrong and rely on common sense the least.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

From the stat for meeting attendance, it looks like 15% of these participants are inactive JWs. 5% said they are "living with a partner" as their marital status, so they would be dfd, very faded, or never baptized. I think that explains how there were 14% that use common sense.

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JW Broadcasting—November 2015

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i09wzqof4zi.

ha!

that is supposed to make people go back?!

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Only clicked through to catch some scenes. Watching too much would have a laxative effect on me.

A video about making a video. Pretty lame. Looked more like JW donations used to pay for bethel tourists.
Preaching in the remotest part of the earth, eh? Try sending those vans of JWs into Syria and report how the desert god has blessed your work.
Some poor people that were so close to real freedom, but were still deceived by cult propaganda. It's sad when JWs realize something isn't right and begin drifting away, but then get love-bombed back into the cognitive dissonance of obedience to a Bronze Age god that is channeled by some old, fat men in Brooklyn. Unfortunately, some people are really impressed by a storybook about a god that couldn't conquer enemies with iron chariot wheels.

Caught this line late in the video about how the other bethel heavies will be trotted out to read the teleprompter on the boredcast:

"We are sure you will enjoy this new arrangement."

More like, "We are going to tell you the only way you are allowed to feel. You will unquestioningly pretend to enjoy whatever rubbish we keep putting out for you."

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Finding homes for the former 'bethelites' and 'special pioneers'

by Esse quam videri in

since the liberal government has been elected in canada, it seems that people are looking to the future with a little more optimism and hope.

it is only human nature that with change, we would think that the change would be for the better.

the courts have ruled, in canada, that it is unconstitutional to deny the homeless the right to sleep in parks.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Maybe all those former bethelites and special pioneers could move to Canada!

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

The writers that come up with this stuff live in the isolated world of bethel. When living in a like-minded hive of WT drones, disfellowshipping sounds fine.

But out in the real world where ordinary JWs have to work with and live around nonJWs, the disfellowshipping practice screams "cult!"

The situation described in this article would easily be surrounded by nonJW family members, neighbors, friends, acquaintances, and onlookers. Although WT can issue the command that nobody ask any questions about the judicial meeting and that nobody talk to the dfd, that certainly doesn't apply to all those nonJWs. And when the mother in this WT story recounts what has transpired and shows what the daughter wrote in the letter to any nonJW, what are they going to think? "What a bitch of a daughter in a stupid church. Poor mother."

I've talked to fellow students, coworkers, and my therapist about this JC and df practice. Of course they find it disgusting and lose any respect for JWs that they previously had. So the GB can keep ordering the sheeple to preach, but I know plenty of people that will never listen because they are aware of this unloving practice of this captive cult.

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Awake Cover

by Watchtower-Free in

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Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Naked, wet, and rubbing your entire body with slippery soap--these are all the tools of Satan the Devil!

Baptism is the only contact with water that true Christians need. It's the example that Jesus set. He got wet all over when he was baptized. Other than that there was hand and feet washing, but nothing in between. Later the bible records in detail that he used his superpowers to avoid contact with water by walking over top of the water instead of getting wet by swimming.